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North Korea Didn't Invade.
It Logged In.

Season 2
— with Nicole Perlroth


Forget what you know about nation-state hacking. North Korea didn't just join the cyber arms race, it changed the game entirely. NYTimes bestselling author Nicole Perlroth investigates, alongside the victims, defenders, and officials who have spent years trying to keep up.

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The Threats Have Evolved. So Has the Story.

I've spent fifteen years swimming in cyber threats and a decade as The New York Times' lead cybersecurity reporter, now traveling the world educating people about the potential for a cataclysmic, cascading cyberattack.

Over the past two decades, trillions of dollars' worth of American R&D, trade secrets, and intellectual property have crept out the back door. When you peel the mask off the thieves, it's the same culprits. Every. Single. Time.

But not every adversary is playing the same game. While China steals to compete, North Korea steals to survive cyber heists on global banks, cryptocurrency theft at nation-state scale, deepfake operations slipping agents into Fortune 500 companies. This isn't espionage. This is a sanctions-busting, weapons-funding disruption machine. Season 1 pulled back the curtain on China's rise to cyber supremacy. Season 2 goes somewhere darker. 

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6 new episodes with new content, new guests, and new revelations. Subscribe to be notified the moment each episode drops.


SEASON 2 · EPISODE 1 · JUNE 9

Strange Things Are Happening – How North Korean Threat Actors Infiltrated American Businesses without Hacking


In a new season of To Catch a Thief, host and former lead cybersecurity and digital espionage reporter for The New York Times, Nicole Perlroth, investigates how North Korean agents are infiltrating the global workforce. How did a nuclear-armed regime worm its way onto the payroll of international companies – and why is it so difficult to get rid of them?

A new breed of worker is quietly clocking in across the United States. They’re writing code, managing your passwords, and training the next generation of AI models. They’re gaining trust and access.

On paper, they’re the dream hire: skilled, low maintenance, always remote, and often affordable. By most accounts, they’re doing the work. But strange things are happening.



MYTHOS SPECIAL · EXCLUSIVE VIDEO

Mythos: The Breaking Point

What happens when AI can find and exploit flaws in the world's most hardened software with minimal human input? Nicole Perlroth goes Out of Band with Anthropic's Nicholas Carlini to find out. Together they unpack the imminent zero-day surge, Anthropic's decision to hold Mythos back, and whether defenders have any credible path to regain the advantage.

The answer makes one thing clear: in a world where almost anything can be hacked, cyber resilience and preemptive recovery aren't best practices — they're the only strategy left.

SEASON 1 · ALL EPISODES AVAILABLE NOW

China's Rise to Cyber Supremacy

9 episodes + a live bonus recording at the New York Stock Exchange. Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, and YouTube.

Season 1 Episodes

FEATURED GUESTS

The Experts Behind the Story

Our featured guests include former NSA directors, CISA directors, top researchers, and Pulitzer Prize winners.

Season 2 Featured Guests

Season 1 Featured Guests

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